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Is stair climbing really equivalent to running for cardio? 馃

TL;DR: Research suggests stair climbing can improve aerobic capacity like running, but running might have superior endurance benefits. Need more evidence!

I've been diving into the research on stair climbing versus running and honestly, I'm confused. A meta-analysis by Morton et al. (2021) suggests that stair climbing can improve aerobic capacity similarly to running, but I'm not buying it completely. Schoenfeld's work (2010) indicates that while both activities engage similar muscle groups, running may have superior effects on overall endurance and calorie burn due to higher intensity and engagement of more muscle fibers.

Also, did anyone catch the recent paper by Helms (2023) showing that the effect size for VO2 max improvement in runners was notably higher than in stair climbers? It's like, how can I be expected to ditch my treadmill if the data's leaning that way? I get it, stairs can be brutal, but can they really replace the good ol' jog?

If anyone has more insight on these findings or can point me to new studies that clarify this, I'm all ears! I don't want to miss out on a sick cardio alternative if it's legit, but I'm skeptical. This feels like a cardio COP OUT, honestly.

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u/5k_runner99

Yep, stair climbing is tough, but I still think running gives you more bang for your buck in terms of cardio! I run a few times a week, and it feels so much more effective for endurance training. Just my experience

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u/never_skiplegday99

skill issue! If you can't run, just hit the stairs! 馃槀 Seriously tho, if you're doing HIIT on the stairs, that can give you a solid workout. Don't sleep on stair workouts, just know running is a different beast altogether.

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u/midwest_lifter

I get your skepticism, but I think you're overlooking some points here. The intensity of running generally pushes your heart rate higher, which can lead to more calories burned in a shorter period. In a study I read, running at a steady pace showed a significant increase in VO2 max compared to stair climbing. Plus, you can't deny the endorphin rush from a good run, right? It's not just about the numbers.

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u/briankoel

It's interesting to see these debates, especially from my past as an athlete. When I was training for endurance events, running was my go-to, but I always mixed in stair work to target specific leg muscles. This combo really helped build strength while enhancing cardio. But again, it comes down to individual goals. If someone prefers stairs and enjoys it, that's great! Enjoyment is crucial in fitness

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u/creatine_supremacy

running is overrated! who even needs it when you can crush stairs? get that heart rate up with a stair climb and watch those gains come in. cardio? who cares. i'm here for the swole. 馃挭

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u/creatine_supremacy

Stairs are cool and all, but why would I trade my treadmill for that? Running is where it's at, straight up. This cardio COP OUT makes zero sense, fr. Not to mention all the gains you get from just hitting the pavement.

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u/midwest_lifter

Honestly, I think it's all about what you're training for. Stair climbing can definitely boost your aerobic capacity, especially if you're pushing hard, but running engages more muscle fibers and can burn more calories. It's like comparing apples to oranges; both are great but serve different purposes. Personally, I enjoy mixing both into my routine to keep things fresh. I hit the treadmill for those long runs, but I also throw in stair sprints for variety. Just find what works best for you.

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u/matureliftersunite

If you're worried about missing out on cardio, try mixing both into your routine! Running may burn more calories overall, but incorporating stair work can enhance leg strength and muscle endurance. It's all about balance.

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u/midwest_lifter

I used to think stair climbing was a solid substitute for running, but after getting into both, I've got to say running feels way more intense. I've done 5Ks and stair workouts, and the sweat factor is real! It's not just about the heart rate, though, running engages a lot of muscle fibers, especially in the legs, that stairs might miss. My local gym has this killer stair machine, and while it's tough, I still get way more out of my runs for endurance.

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u/saltyngl

Yo, stairs are the worst! Like, who even came up with that? I'd rather run for miles than deal with that torture. Gimme a treadmill any day.

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u/matureliftersunite

Stair climbing can be a great alternative, especially if you have joint issues or access to stairs instead of a treadmill. I've had clients who switched to stair climbing and saw solid improvements in their endurance without the wear and tear of running. Both have their benefits, but if you're looking for something less impactful on the joints, stairs might be your friend.

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u/never_skiplegday99

You know what they say, leg day is a killer, but stair climbing is a different beast. If you want a challenge for your legs, hit those stairs, but I'm not ditching my jogs anytime soon. Nothing beats running to clear the mind!

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u/5k_runner99

Honestly, when I do stair climbs, my legs feel like jelly afterward. I can't imagine doing that for a long duration like running. I prefer to get my cardio from running because it just feels like a more complete workout to me.

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u/squat_to_pizza

Listen, I get it. Cardio isn't my fave either, but if you think about it, both can have their place in your routine. I've tried stair climbing a few times, and honestly, my quads were screaming! 馃槀 If you're looking to get stronger legs, stairs might be better, but for that cardio high, nothing beats a good run. Just keep it balanced with your lifting!

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u/5k_runner99

Honestly, I can't even imagine ditching my treadmill. Just the thought of all that running outdoors? No thanks. But stairs? I can do those anytime, anywhere. They're brutal but kinda fun, in a masochistic way.

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u/matureliftersunite

Stair climbing has its benefits, but I wouldn't say it's a direct substitute for running. Sure, it can boost your aerobic capacity, but running engages a wider range of muscle fibers and promotes greater endurance. I remember a time when I switched from running to stair climbing for a month, and I felt my stamina drop significantly. It's a different ballgame

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u/runningfromcardio

stair climbing is like running's awkward cousin. both are cool, but one is definitely more fun. i can't run for shit, but you'll catch me on the stairs pretending I'm at a fitness competition! #notreally

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u/creatine_supremacy

Facts. I don't see why anyone would swap running for stairs. If you want to get shredded and build stamina, running is the way. Cardio is supposed to suck, so embrace the grind! Stair climbing feels like a cop-out, ngl

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u/matureliftersunite

Great points raised in the post. I've been coaching for over 20 years, and I see athletes benefit from both running and stair climbing, but it depends on their goals. If you're focused on endurance and overall cardio health, running tends to deliver more benefits, especially for VO2 max. Stair climbing can be a great addition for those looking to target specific muscle groups and improve leg strength. Just be sure to listen to your body

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u/whey_addict

i mean, if you want to make cardio less boring, stairs can help. but let's be real, nothing beats that runner's high. lol.

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u/calisthenics_nerd

Have you tried combining them? Like, running to the stairs and then hitting them hard? It keeps your body guessing and can help maximize the benefits of both. I did a mix of stair runs and jogging for a while, and it really took my endurance to another level. Plus, it makes workouts feel less monotonous

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u/midwest_lifter

To each their own! Everyone has their favorite method of getting cardio in. The best workout is the one you enjoy. If you hate running, stair climbing could be a way to keep your cardio up without dreading the treadmill.

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u/6footdadbod

I just tell my kids I'm working out when I take the stairs. They think I'm super fit when really I'm just avoiding the elevator! But hey, anything counts, right?

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u/squat_to_pizza

Stair climbing? Nah, I'm all about those PRs on the deadlift and bench. Cardio is just a necessary evil. Give me a slice of pizza after a solid run, and I'm good. Stairs can keep their own grind.

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u/briankoel

As a former athlete, I can tell you that running is key for endurance. Sure, stair climbing has its merits, but the overall body mechanics and engagement you get from running is hard to replicate. I've seen it with my teams, those who run regularly tend to have better stamina than those who do stairs alone.

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u/6footdadbod

I don't run much myself, but I think it depends on your goals. If you're looking to build endurance for sports or something, running might be better. If you just need some cardio in your routine, stair climbing can be a solid option. It's like asking if a dad joke or a pun is better. They both have their time and place

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u/saltyngl

i think running is just way better for burning calories. like who wants to climb a million stairs when you can just hit the track? but hey, if stairs are your jam, go for it.

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u/carbphobia

Look, I'm not here to say running is bad. But is it really necessary? You can get your cardio in with stairs, and it's less impact on your joints. Plus, have you seen how many calories you can burn just by climbing stairs? I think a lot of people overlook that.

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u/saltyngl

you ever try stairs and think you're gonna die? 馃槀 But for real, it's hard work! I think if you can manage both, then go for it. I just want to be strong and not out of breath all the time.

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u/carbphobia

I don't understand why people are still debating this. While both have their merits, running generally outperforms stair climbing in aerobic conditioning. Studies consistently show that VO2 max improvements are significantly higher in runners. If you're serious about cardio and endurance, you can't ignore the data! Plus, let's not forget about injury risks. Running can strengthen bones more effectively, so stair climbing should be a supplement, not a replacement

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u/6footdadbod

As a dad with limited time, I find stair climbing to be a solid alternative when I can't get outside. A few minutes on the stairs and I'm out of breath. Not quite the same as a jog, but hey, it's still cardio.

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u/6footdadbod

I think it's all about personal preference. I don't run much anymore, but I climb stairs at home with the kids. It's a great way to stay active without the treadmill monotony.

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u/midwest_lifter

There are definitely benefits to both running and stair climbing. I've found running is great for building that sustained cardio endurance, especially if you're prepping for a race. On the other hand, stair climbing really hammers those legs. I mix them up based on how I'm feeling. Some days I want to push the pace, and others I just want to grind it out on the stairs.

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u/midwest_lifter

One thing I do recommend is tracking your heart rate while you do both. You might be surprised at how stair climbing can get your heart pumping just as much as a run can, depending on how you approach it. Find that sweet spot where you can push yourself on both!

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u/never_skiplegday99

running is cool but stairs can be like a mini leg day, ya know? Honestly, I'd rather take the stairs than deal with the monotony of running sometimes. It's like a whole new level of pain. 馃槀

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u/5k_runner99

I think it really boils down to personal preference. Some people thrive on the runner's high, while others might find stair climbing more accessible. Maybe try alternating between the two and see how your body responds? You might be surprised.

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u/calisthenics_nerd

I feel like the best cardio routine has a bit of everything, running, stair climbing, maybe some biking. All of it builds different skills and helps in different areas. If you're not enjoying what you're doing, you're less likely to stick with it. Just find what works for you!

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u/briankoel

I think both methods can complement each other. When I was training for a half marathon, I incorporated stair climbing into my regimen for variety. It helped with muscle endurance and strength in my legs, which was beneficial when hitting those long runs. You might find that blending both could give you the best results.

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u/never_skiplegday99

If u want to build solid legs, stair climbing is legit! But yeah, for cardio endurance, running probably takes the cake. I like mixing them up, do legs on stair machines and then hit a quick run. Makes me feel like im covering all bases!

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u/momof3_gains

i love running when I can, but as a busy mom, I find stair climbing easier to fit into my schedule. Quick 20-minute stair sessions can be a lifesaver. It's not a complete replacement for running, but it gets the job done when I'm short on time.

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u/5k_runner99

Running is just a vibe. If you want to clear your head, nothing beats a jog. I feel like it has more benefits mentally, too. Stairs can't really give you that.

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u/midwest_lifter

True! I've read that mixing cardio routines can actually enhance performance. Runners can benefit from the muscle endurance gained in stair workouts, and vice versa. It's really about finding that balance, especially if you want to avoid burnout from one activity. Plus, variety is the spice of life, right?

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u/never_skiplegday99

This shit is hilarious. Running feels like punishment, so why not take the elevator instead? 馃槀 Seriously tho, both have their place, but if I'm picking, I'll stick with the treadmill.

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u/5k_runner99

Ngl, I think running is still king for cardio. It just gets your heart rate up faster than climbing stairs. Plus, u can control your pace a lot better on a treadmill or outside.

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u/matureliftersunite

I've seen clients have good results with stair climbing, but it might not replace running for everyone. When I was training athletes, I noticed that running builds more endurance and stamina overall. It also engages more muscle fibers, which might be why studies show those higher VO2 max improvements in runners. If you're looking for a solid cardio alternative, stair climbing can be beneficial, but I wouldn't ditch the treadmill just yet.

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u/5k_runner99

Honestly, I think variety is key! I do running for my long sessions but then incorporate stairs for intensity days. It keeps my routine fresh, and I never get bored. Plus, the muscle engagement in different forms is awesome.

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u/carbphobia

I'd argue that the mental aspect of running is huge. I've been running for years, and nothing clears my head quite like hitting the pavement. But I get that stair climbing can be a great workout too. Find what keeps you motivated!

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u/matureliftersunite

I think it's a bit simplistic to say one is better than the other. They each have their place in a well-rounded fitness routine. For example, I've seen clients improve their VO2 max with a mix of running and stair climbing, so maybe incorporating both into your training could give you the best of both worlds. If you're training for endurance, running will probably be more effective, but don't sleep on those stairs!

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u/briankoel

As a former athlete, I can tell you that variety is essential in any training program. If you're used to running, switching to stair climbing might shock your muscles in a good way. That said, if you're serious about endurance training, running still holds the crown. Each has its own place in a well-rounded fitness routine.

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u/never_skiplegday99

Stairs vs. running is like comparing apples and oranges. Both have their perks! But at the end of the day, I just can't take that much stair climbing. Cardio haters unite!

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u/matureliftersunite

What I find interesting is how both forms of exercise can fit into different lifestyles. If someone prefers stair climbing because it's easier on their knees or fits their schedule better, that's great. Everyone's fitness journey is unique. Just don't forget to keep challenging yourself, whether that's with stairs, running, or any other activity.

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u/6footdadbod

I've tried both, and honestly, they both kick my butt. Running makes me feel like I'm flying, while stair climbing has me feeling like I'm climbing Everest. I'll stick with running for now, but if I ever need to switch things up, stairs are there.

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u/5k_runner99

Facts! Running has this unique ability to engage your whole body, especially when u push yourself. Stair climbing is no joke, but if u're really looking to challenge your endurance, nothing beats a solid run. Plus, who doesn't love the post-run high? It's like a free dose of happiness.

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u/midwest_lifter

Running can feel therapeutic, that's for sure. I use it as a stress reliever sometimes. But I also enjoy stair workouts for a change of pace. There's something about getting that burn in your legs while pushing through fatigue that feels rewarding. It's a different kind of grind but a rewarding one.

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u/calisthenics_nerd

When I started calisthenics, I realized that cardio doesn't have to be limited to running. Mixing in stair climbing with bodyweight exercises really helped boost my overall fitness. Sure, running might burn more calories, but there's a lot to be said for stamina gained through stair workouts. It's all about what fits your routine and goals.

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u/whey_addict

Facts! Stair climbing might be great for your glutes, but running is where it's at for overall conditioning. Plus, you can switch up the terrain when you run, which keeps things interesting. Maybe you need to mix it up, do some HIIT with stairs and then hit the pavement for longer runs

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u/whey_addict

Honestly, I think a mix of both is the way to go. You can hit those PRs with running while also incorporating stairs for variety. I mean, who can say no to a good stair workout? Just make sure you're tracking those macros to get the most out of your efforts.

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u/calisthenics_nerd

Stair climbing can be a great cardio workout, especially if you're pushing intensity. It activates your glutes and quads intensely, which is beneficial for strength too. I actually mix stair workouts with bodyweight exercises for a killer circuit. That said, you might miss out on some of the endurance benefits that come from running long distances. So it really depends on your goals.

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u/matureliftersunite

Don't forget, the intensity you can bring to stair climbing can rival running. If you're pushing hard on those steps, your heart rate can soar, which can lead to similar aerobic improvements. So if you're looking to mix it up, don't shy away from the stairs!

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u/5k_runner99

I totally get being skeptical! I felt the same way at first. But once I tried stair intervals, I was surprised by how much it pushed my limits. Still, I think it shouldn't replace running, just complement it for overall fitness.

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u/whey_addict

just saying, if stair climbing was that good, why would runners still do it? feels like a lot of cope to me.

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u/midwest_lifter

for real tho, it's like having a cheat code if you can alternate between both! Keeps your body guessing. I know I feel different just after a few sessions on the stairs.

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u/whey_addict

You're right about mixing things up! Like, I do a stair workout and then follow up with a short run to keep it fresh. And, let's be real, stairs can make you feel like you've run a marathon without the actual running part. 馃槀

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u/5k_runner99

I actually prefer stair climbing! It's a killer workout, plus I feel like I get a better leg burn than just running. I'll do intervals on the stair climber and it's super effective. I think it can totally complement your running routine instead of replacing it.

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u/calisthenics_nerd

While both stair climbing and running have their merits, they do differ in how they challenge the body. Running typically engages more fast-twitch muscle fibers, which are essential for explosive movements and endurance. In contrast, stair climbing primarily targets slow-twitch fibers, focusing more on endurance without that explosive aspect. If you're looking to build power and speed, running might be the way to go. But if you're after a good lower-body workout, stairs can't be beat.

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u/momof3_gains

I've tried both, and I get why people love running. But honestly, stair climbing is more time-efficient for me. I'm a busy mom, so if I can get a solid workout in just 20 minutes on the stairs, I'm in!

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u/momof3_gains

As a busy mom, I get that any cardio counts. I've done stair climbing while watching my kids play, and I honestly think it helps. But yeah, I wouldn't ditch running completely. It's nice to have that variety!

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u/carbphobia

It's interesting to consider how we define 'cardio.' Running is traditionally seen as the go-to, but if stair climbing improves your aerobic capacity, why not include it? I'm just cautious of how we equate different activities without considering individual responses. Some people may find stairs just as effective, while others might need that open road to feel it.

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u/carbphobia

To add to that, I've seen runners integrate stair workouts for strength and conditioning, which shows it can have its place even in traditional running regimens. It's all about finding what works best for your body. Don't be afraid to experiment!

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u/5k_runner99

yep! I prefer running, but when I can't get outside, stairs do the job! Just make sure you're getting your form right so you don't mess up your knees. It's such a game of balance, right?

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u/creatine_supremacy

bro, stair climbing is just a fancy way to avoid running. facts.

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u/5k_runner99

Ngl, I think mixing both is the best approach. Running helps with endurance, but stair climbing hits those glutes hard. Just keep switching it up to prevent any plateau in your progress. Who doesn't want that nice butt?

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u/never_skiplegday99

stair day is like leg day but for your lungs. if u wanna feel like you got hit by a truck, stair climbing is your jam. but no cap, don't sleep on the treadmill either

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u/midwest_lifter

Sometimes I feel like cardio enthusiasts are looking for ways to justify their choice. Both activities have their pros and cons. Some might find stairs more accessible or less stressful on the joints compared to running. It's about finding what you love and what fits into your routine. Just don't forget about strength training; it's essential for overall fitness

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u/squat_to_pizza

lol, cardio is the devil's workout. just let me lift my weights and eat pizza in peace! but stair climbing is decent if you wanna sweat without running from your problems.

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u/saltyngl

I mean, running makes me feel alive, while stair climbing just makes me feel dead. But I get that not everyone loves to run. Just remember, if you want to see serious gains, you gotta mix it up! There's no one-size-fits-all.

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u/whey_addict

no cap, I can't stand running for long, but stairs? That shit gets me breathing hard real quick! It's a good alternative when you don't have time or want to switch it up. Just make sure you're not skipping leg day afterward.

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u/midwest_lifter

When it comes to calorie burn, running usually has the upper hand. I did a side-by-side comparison of my workouts and consistently burned more calories running than climbing stairs. That said, stairs can help build some serious leg strength and endurance if you keep at it. Just remember to mix it up; don't lock yourself into one mode of cardio.

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u/briankoel

I used to run marathons, and I've found that the intensity and muscle engagement are quite different between running and stair climbing. Running can often push you into higher heart rate zones, making it a more effective option for cardiovascular improvement. But if you're looking for variety in your routine, stairs can still offer a good challenge. Remember, the best cardio is the one you'll actually do!

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u/runningfromcardio

stair climbing is like running's less fun cousin. you do it because you have to, not because you want to! but honestly, if it works for you, do it.

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u/carbphobia

It's fascinating how people can be so attached to one method. I see value in both stair climbing and running, but running is simply superior for improving your cardiovascular fitness. If you're still on the fence, maybe track your progress with both and see what fits better for your fitness journey. The data won't lie.

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u/calisthenics_nerd

I'd say stair climbing has its benefits, especially for those looking to avoid the impact of running. I love incorporating it into my bodyweight routines, as it helps build strength and endurance. I usually do intervals on stairs with some explosive movements mixed in, and that gets my heart rate up like crazy! Plus, it can be a great way to increase your vertical jump for sports like basketball. Just remember, variety is key in any training regimen.

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u/carbphobia

This debate is wild. Sure, stair climbing is a great workout, but calling it equivalent to running feels off. I mean, what's next? Will we say biking is the same as swimming? Both have their perks, but they target different aspects of fitness. Maybe we need to stop searching for an equivalent and appreciate each for what they bring to the table.

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u/carbphobia

Honestly, the whole cardio vs. stair climbing debate is wild. People act like one has to completely replace the other. Both can fit into a well-rounded program, and it really depends on individual goals. If you're chasing fat loss, stair climbing could work, but don't underestimate the mental and physical benefits of running.

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u/calisthenics_nerd

Stair climbing is definitely underrated, but I think we have to look at what you're trying to achieve. If you want to build leg strength and stability, stairs can be fantastic. I've been doing bodyweight workouts and adding stair intervals, and it's really helped with my overall fitness. I don't run much, but I see how both have their benefits. It's all about balance, right?

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u/creatine_supremacy

who cares about cardio tho, just lift! I mean, if you want to climb stairs for fun, go for it. But running? Nah fam, just hit those weights and pump some creatine. That's the real grind.

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u/momof3_gains

I don't have time for long runs, so stair climbing has been a lifesaver for me. I squeeze it in during my kids' soccer practice. Sure, it's not the same as running, but it gets my heart pumping and works my legs. Every little bit counts!

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u/squat_to_pizza

LMAO, stair climbing is like cardio for people who hate running! I get it's a good workout, but can we just agree it's not the same? Give me a squat rack over stairs any day. But hey, if it works for you, who am I to judge?

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u/whey_addict

100% facts! Stair climbing is cool, but if you're trying to hit PRs in running, you might be missing out. I'd rather snack on some protein bars than spend too much time on the stairs. 馃槀

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u/saltyngl

so, stair climbing for cardio? skill issue if u think it can replace running! like, you gotta up ur game on the treadmill too.

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u/midwest_lifter

Just wanted to add, running can definitely feel more intense and offer that endorphin rush. But I also find stairs can give a killer leg burn that makes it feel worthwhile. The thing is, maybe mix them up? I do that to keep my workouts varied and fun!

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u/midwest_lifter

I've been lifting for over a decade now, and cardio has always been a bit of a struggle for me. That said, I've found that mixing things up can really help. Stair climbing can definitely elevate your heart rate, but you might not hit the same VO2 max improvements as you would with running. I personally like to alternate between both to keep my workouts fresh. It also helps in terms of injury prevention, variety is key. Just don't forget to listen to your body and find what works best for you.

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u/whey_addict
  1. Running is a full-body workout that builds endurance better than stair climbing. Plus, it's way more fun to hit the pavement than slog up stairs. Just my two cents.
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u/momof3_gains

As a busy mom, I appreciate any workout that can be quick but effective. I can squeeze in stair workouts while chasing after my kids, so it works for me! Just find what fits into your life.

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u/squat_to_pizza

As a powerlifter, cardio isn't my top priority. But when I do hit the stairs, it's brutal! Running seems way more chill in comparison. 馃槀 Still, gotta give props to both for being effective in their own ways.

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